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Post by DataDroid » Mon Apr 16, 2001 10:39 pm

DS, I have rhino 1.1 and 2.0 beta, and I'm a fair hand at NURBS modeling, but I really don't know much about modeling with meshes. I'm trying to make a non-canon MC, and I can't figure out how to avoid triangles and how to seamlessly blend the "bubbles" into the hull, could you help me out?
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Post by Admiral Andy » Tue Apr 17, 2001 1:17 am

I'm not sure if this would help, but you could always take apart one of JM's Mon Cals to see how it was built. As far as getting triangles, that only happens if you select three points and then press "enter" before setting the fourth point for a face.

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Post by JM » Tue Apr 17, 2001 1:55 am

AAAHHHHH! Goddamn OPT->PRJ! Actually Goddamn save as DXF (at least regarding my OPTs). The idea of people dissecting my work makes me feel like my trousers have split and my dubious Y-Fronts are now visible rather than hidden.<P>Wouldn't be much help since I never got the "bubbles" (WARTS!) to blend seamlessly myself.
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Post by decoy » Tue Apr 17, 2001 7:02 am

You didn't !!! Image<P>------------------<BR>When in danger, when i doubt.<BR>Run in circles, scream and shout....
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Post by JC » Tue Apr 17, 2001 8:45 am

Yeah, but it's fun to gut other people's opts.

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Post by DataDroid » Tue Apr 17, 2001 3:17 pm

I know how to make quads and triangles, but in some cases, I only end up with 3 points to put the 3DFace on. I want to know how to avoid that. And JM, how DID you put the "warts" on?
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Post by decoy » Wed Apr 18, 2001 6:44 am

Ok i made you a nice tutorial for this one but you will have to wait until this evening for me to be able to put it on my FTP server.<P>------------------<BR>When in danger, when i doubt.<BR>Run in circles, scream and shout....
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Post by DataDroid » Wed Apr 18, 2001 1:47 pm

Thanks, could you point me in the direction of your ftp sever?, or put a link to it right here? I'd also like to know how to put a poing on something, (like the end of an MC like Home One) without having to use triangles on the tip.
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Post by Otana » Wed Apr 18, 2001 2:08 pm

maybe you have to creat a sphere and stretch it using it's control points, and for streching an entire side of the sphere use set points, but take notice that I am just theorizing, I haven't even created anything rounded yet. Image

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Post by decoy » Wed Apr 18, 2001 2:26 pm

I'll put it up in my forum or maybe here this eve<P>------------------<BR>When in danger, when i doubt.<BR>Run in circles, scream and shout....
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Post by DataDroid » Wed Apr 18, 2001 3:15 pm

Otana, I already tried that, I still have triangles at the tip.
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Post by decoy » Wed Apr 18, 2001 7:11 pm

Go get it <A HREF="http://home.soneraplaza.nl/qn/prive/rp.bos/BUBBLES.htm" TARGET=_blank>here</A><P>------------------<BR>When in danger, when i doubt.<BR>Run in circles, scream and shout....
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Post by decoy » Wed Apr 18, 2001 7:13 pm

Ohh and don't bother asking me again if you are going to ask the same question all over the net. It doesn't show alot of confidence in the once you are asking in the first place...<P>------------------<BR>When in danger, when i doubt.<BR>Run in circles, scream and shout....
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Post by DataDroid » Thu Apr 19, 2001 2:03 am

Sorry, didn't mean to get on your nerves, it just seemed that nobody was answering it on the other forums.
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Post by Bios Boy » Tue Apr 24, 2001 9:25 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by decoy:<BR><B>Go get it <A HREF="http://home.soneraplaza.nl/qn/prive/rp.bos/BUBBLES.htm" TARGET=_blank>here</A><P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I build my opts in exactly the same way as Decoy says in his tutorial.<P>------------------<BR>Creator of<BR><A HREF="http://www.antilles100.freeserve.co.uk" TARGET=_blank>V-38 Assault Fighter</A>
So many projects on the go.<P>Creator of <A HREF="http://www.biosboy.fsnet.co.uk" TARGET=_blank><I>Opt Viewer</I></A>, <A HREF="http://www.Antilles100.freeserve.co.uk" TARGET=_blank><I>V-38 Assault Fighter</I></A> and <A HREF="http://www.Antilles100.freeserve.co.uk" TARGET=_blank><I>Alliance Escort Carrier</I></A>.<BR>Currently working on OptED an all new advanced Opt program.

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Post by Darksaber » Tue Apr 24, 2001 9:33 pm

Hey Welcome Bios, I have heard alot about you from Ace Image<P>------------------<BR>Good Things Come To Those Who Wait<P><A HREF="http://www.darksaber.freeserve.co.uk" TARGET=_blank>Darksaber's Opt Station</A>
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Post by DataDroid » Wed Apr 25, 2001 3:27 pm

Amazing! Ace and Bios both have the <B>exact same</B> website!
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Post by Ace Antilles » Wed Apr 25, 2001 6:29 pm

Funny that. Image He's the brains and I'm the beauty! Image<BR>Bios finally decided to start putting in his input here. But only now and again though.<P>Although as DS says above. Good things come to those who wait. <I>(hint, hint)</I> Image<P>------------------<BR>Don't forget the new <A HREF="http://www.xwaupgrade.com/ubbcgi/forumd ... LastLogin=" TARGET=_blank>Forum.</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.antilles100.freeserve.co.uk" TARGET=_blank>Ace Antilles X-wing Outpost</A><BR>Home of Endor & Yavin Updates.
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Post by Mini Canari » Wed Apr 25, 2001 11:38 pm

So this is Bios....Hi bios i was wondering who was Bios from the v-38 a long time ago....now i got the answer
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Post by Bios Boy » Thu Apr 26, 2001 3:50 pm

Yeah i've been around since before there were any opt programs available. Image<P>------------------<BR>Creator of <A HREF="http://www.antilles100.freeserve.co.uk" TARGET=_blank>V-38 Assault Fighter</A><p>[This message has been edited by Bios Boy (edited 26 April 2001).]
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Post by JC » Thu Apr 26, 2001 6:21 pm

Ah, the elusive BiosBoy is here at last. Nice to meet you. I really like your V-38. Any chance of anything new from you, in the future?

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Post by Bios Boy » Thu Apr 26, 2001 7:17 pm

I've just about finsihed a Rebel Escort Carrier that I have been working on and off for ages, just needs playing with the hardpoints.<BR>I've completed an accurate model of a Star Trek Starbase but it needs texturing which will take me a bit of time. I've also done a good Star Trek Enterprise 1701 but it needs a tiny amount of work to complete, then texturing. The Star Trek opts won't be ready for a while but keep your eyes open for the Rebel Escort. Image<P>------------------<BR>Creator of <A HREF="http://www.antilles100.freeserve.co.uk" TARGET=_blank>V-38 Assault Fighter</A><p>[This message has been edited by Bios Boy (edited 26 April 2001).]
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Post by Executor32 » Thu Apr 26, 2001 10:31 pm

Hey Bios, which RESC do you think is better, yours or the new version of JM's? And don't say yours is better just because it's yours, or we'll have to call you Bi<B>a</B>s-Boy! Image<P>------------------<BR>There is no peace, there is anger. <BR>There is no fear, there is power. <BR>There is no death, there is immortality. <BR>There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side.<BR>-Dark Side Code<P><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/executor128" TARGET=_blank>Executor32's X-Wing Alliance Depot</A><p>[This message has been edited by Executor32 (edited 27 April 2001).]
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Post by JC » Thu Apr 26, 2001 11:27 pm

Bios Boy's RESC is a bit more accurate and nicer looking to boot.

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Post by Ace Antilles » Thu Apr 26, 2001 11:37 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Executor32:<BR><B>Hey Bios, which RESC do you think is better, yours or the new version of JM's?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You will just have to wait and see when some pics go up! Image It's personal opinion isn't it? I thought JM's newest version was a big improvement on the old one.<BR>Although I'm also very biased! Don't know why ay Bios?? Image
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